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5 days ago•••
Foxes panic as executive order removes them from the hen house.
10 days ago•••
Wow, yes.
Reading nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kyqpq3ed2vpden40w48rsl3d9p47kug9an8yzezt7rspxfdqdt49qr0aqhmvrk7 post actually helps me too, makes me feel less alone.
Because I ended up in a place of debilitating anxiety, unable to check emails etc, not sleeping, in constant hypervigilance, during Covid.
Initially it was because of the people reaching out for help. I couldn't help them and what they were going through was awful, and I began drinking just to calm my nerves long enough to read and reply to them... replying to say that I cared... and not much else. There was nothing else.
Over time it was the police showing up to my family home, the threat of arrest, the risk of injury at every protest and the relentless demonisation of me (as well as many others) for the 'crime' of upholding human rights, that took its toll.
It took years to get my drinking back under control, and 5 years later I'm still not OK. Trust has been broken at a level that I don't have words to explain. I've seen man's inhumanity to man play out in the quiet streets of civilised suburbia, and I cannot unsee it.
But life goes on.
For me it took 2.5 years for the government to finally drop their politically motivated 'incitement' charges against me.
For Sall, it seems its going to drag on for longer than that. :(
Sall, all I can say is that we're with you, thankyou for being the tip of this particular spear, and I hope that in time you have the opportunity to heal.
10 days ago•••
“I cannot unsee it”
Exactly this.
I have no trust in institutions anymore. I don’t even know how I’ll ever vote again, something I used to really respect. They’re supposed to make sure that laws work before they pass them.
When the AHRC intervened in Tickle v Giggle, they admitted in their submission that there was a conflict in the law with sex & gender identity (and then proceeded to solve the problem with gender identity, which is the problem. They’re solving the problem with the problem). And I’m like… so if you are aware that there is a conflict in the law, why are you giving citizens “gender identity discrimination” complaints? Why aren’t you fixing the problem in the law? I will never forgive them. I want them to be closed down. They’re not fit for purpose. They’re an ideology commission, not a human rights commission.
10 days ago•••
I very rarely talk about how mentally & emotionally hard it is to deal with gender ideology when you’re in the eye of a legal battle against it, mainly because a) I don’t want to waste the opportunities I get to talk about this issue talking about myself and b) I’m just not someone who particularly dwells on it anyway. I focus most of my energy on the end goal and try to not get lost in the weeds. Honestly, you’d go crazy if you just sat around focusing on the magnitude of this situation all the time. And I’d be of absolutely no use to anyone if I went crazy. So I don’t.
Also, I just know I’m right. Men are not women. Anyone who thinks they are is wrong. It’s that simple.
This is not to say that nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kyqpqkzsxdpz8tn0sthz36p2ul6z8yvnlgzsq0gwdll3csa26f82hqrlst4ch7r hasn’t had to listen to me vent/breakdown on a few occasions. Oh, boy, she has. We find rationality and move on. Men are not women, let’s get on with the day.
But there is something that is just in the background of every second of my life, since January 20 2022 - 3 years on Monday - giving me close to debilitating anxiety, which I expel a lot of energy to quickly overcome, and it’s been playing on my mind lately.
When an institution like the Australian Human Rights Commission is against you on such a basic fact, men are women v men are not women, it makes you fearful of what else will be against you & punish you for something so obvious. And it manifests in ways like, not wanting to look at emails. Because that’s where the AHRC complaint first came in. Every time my phone rings/pings I instinctively think “what now?” Every time. Even while driving, just expecting to be pulled over & told that you’re doing it wrong. Just talking to people, sometimes I find myself expecting them to punish me for not thinking that up is down and I have to take a deep breath & refocus.
This is what happens when you’re attacked (& punished) at your most basic instinct, and it’s work to fight against it. I very much think it’s the ultimate goal of gender ideology, so I do think it’s important to talk about. Gender ideology wants to wear people down, it’s the only way it could possibly be successful. Make people feel crazy. Fearful. Suddenly, men are women by default.
But, and I genuinely believe this, no matter how stressful, scary or overwhelming it feels, there is nothing more powerful than knowing that you’re right. The absolute power of truth.
And, it’s actually very rare to know that you are 100% right. Most of the time we operate with a bit of caution or humility. There is lots of uncertainty. There are many things we can be wrong about. But men being women just isn’t one of them.
The moment I remember that, I’m filled with complete relief.
13 days ago•••
Giggle v Tickle updates
• Tickle has applied to cross appeal, wanting the decision upgraded from “indirect discrimination” to “direct discrimination” + more $$$ in damages and $$$ in aggravated damages.
• The Australian Human Rights sex discrimination Commissioner has once again applied to intervene. They intervened as amicus curiae in Tickle v Giggle and interpreted the law to favor gender identity over sex/legal sex over biological sex.
• The Australian Christian Lobby has applied to intervene on the side of sex based rights.
• The case management hearing is scheduled for February 12 at the Federal Court in Sydney.
• It is likely that the appeal will be heard in August, 2025. This appeal is to the full Federal Court. That means 3 Federal Court judges not 1. Due to the cross appeal, the hearing is likely to go for 3-4 days rather than the usual 1 in an appeal.
• The reason the Giggle appeal is to the full Federal Court and not the High Court is because the Tickle v Giggle decision got both facts about the case & facts about the law wrong. So it remains a Federal Court matter.
• After a full Federal Court appeal decision, the side who didn’t get the decision in their favor can apply to go to the High Court. As I have said from the very beginning, I am willing to do that if that is what is necessary.
• The Giggle legal team is Stuart Wood AM KC, Bridie Nolan, Anca Costin and Katherine Deves.
• The next updates will be after the case management hearing & will address whether the cross appeal & interveners were permitted.
• As always, thank you everyone for the endless support. It is invaluable to me. This has been a very long & stressful process for 3 years and it’s not over yet. Ultimately, I am very optimistic. In part because I know I am right - men are not women - but also because it is clear that the global capture of gender ideology is falling.
• For more information & donations, please visit https://t.co/5qxNEfrSVj 🩷
14 days ago•••
It is quite amazing that 206 people actually voted against protecting women & girls sport.
Like, literally the only reason to vote against protecting women & girls sport is because you care more about the men & boys it needs protection from.
16 days ago•••
Man who claims to be a woman accuses other people of “misdirection” & “distraction” while “mystified” that the 50% of the population he claims to be part of actually exists separate from him.
17 days ago•••
Fantastic, now remove the men who claim to be women from women’s bathrooms.
19 days ago•••
“A legal woman” is something only a man claiming to be a woman would ever need to declare. The lie is inescapable.
21 days ago•••
Anyone who thinks male criminals aren’t using gender ideology as a legal loophole is seriously deluded.
24 days ago•••
The number of men* who will look you in the eye & tell you women are responsible for men claiming to be women, most who are men aroused by the idea of being women, is quite astounding.
ahem
Men who claim to be women are responsible for men who claim to be women.
*not all men😩
32 days ago•••
Men who want to go into women only spaces are the reason why women only spaces are necessary.
47 days ago•••
And this is how gender ideology destroys not only the body but also the brain -
62 days ago•••
See, this is the issue: “real trans people”.
It is an unfalsifiable claim. Literally any man claiming to be a woman can claim to be a “real trans person”. That is the problem. It’s how we got here!
Pushing the concept of a “real trans person” will continue every one of the issues nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kyqpqfach56sh6ndezrrfqucvj8ks635y5k3dsjzd2jp8glra09y0qwkqzt933g claims to want to solve. It’s history repeating itself. It’s doing the exact same thing but expecting a different result. It’s the definition of insanity.
I also note that he don’t mention “men in women’s spaces” on his list and can only conclude there is a reason for that: he considers himself a “real trans person” and “real trans people” (who are actually just men, like every other man) are entitled access to women’s spaces.
NO.
Jenner part of the problem, not part the solution.
73 days ago•••
That this guy is being positioned as a “rational trans voice” shows just how insane trans activism is.
Why fall for it? It’s what got us here.
There is literally nothing rational in what he is saying, starting from the claim he is any kind of women, followed by WTF this is:
74 days ago•••
“trans women are men”, content instantly blocked. Like, literally, instantly.
😂🤷‍♀️
83 days ago•••
Bye 👋
86 days ago•••
Just when you think it can’t get more insane…
87 days ago•••
Giggle v Tickle appeal update:
Litigation is a long & a mostly boring process, while simultaneously being incredibly stressful. It’s a rollercoaster. Here is everything I know so far:
• Soon, there will be a hearing that will set a date for the appeal to be heard in court.
• This appeal is in the full Federal Court. This means that three Federal Court judges hear the case & come to a decision. The judge from the first round is not involved. His work is done on this case.
• The reason the first appeal is to the full Federal Court is because the current decision (“sex is changeable”) has both facts of the case and the law wrong.
• For example, the decision states that to use Giggle, users had to look like a cisgender woman. This is incorrect. To use Giggle, users had to be female, and female in the ordinary use of the word which is biological. This very important detail was, I think rather conveniently, ignored.
• The full Federal Court sits a few times a year. In 2025, the dates are March, July/August or November.
• Stuart Wood KC has joined the Giggle legal team, working with Bridie Nolan, Anca Costin & Katherine Deves.
• The possible outcomes are: Giggle wins the appeal, the other side appeals to the High Court; Giggle wins the appeal, the other side doesn’t appeal to the High Court; Giggle loses the appeal, Giggle appeals to the High Court.
• The High Court is the last court.
• I want a decision that establishes that women are a class of people that men cannot legally identify themselves into & female only - on the basis of SEX - spaces, events & services are lawful. Any politician or media commentator who says I am wrong in wanting that has to be held to account & explain why.
• In legal terms, what has to be established is that sex is a biological concept in the sex discrimination act. The current decision disputes that, citing 3 legal cases that acknowledged a person lying about their sex. This is in conflict with the the intention of the sex discrimination act and, of course, the entirety of human history.
• I am optimistic. I know we are right & I know that reality always wins - eventually. Reality is inescapable. The law has to reflect reality. In reality, no man is a woman so therefore no man should legally be a woman.
• The next update will be when we get a hearing date.
• As always, thank you everyone for the support. Let’s go get our rights back 🩷
90 days ago•••
If men who claim to be women need specific centers, organizations, events, sport, spaces, scholarships, apps, whatever, for their wellbeing, create them.
Women did the work to create what we need & we’re simply not giving it up for entitled, deranged & potentially predatory men.
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